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		<title>By: kaylene</title>
		<link>http://www.agenttimonline.com/2006/11/21/finally/comment-page-1/#comment-14237</link>
		<dc:creator>kaylene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some good thoughts, and I agree with what you said Tim. I appreciate your humble reply. Its in interesting topic and I think you covered both sides well. I would like to stress, you CAN tell something by its fruits and in many things, a prom, for instance, there is a pattern of "dirty dancing" and "awful music". We homeschoolers may be considered sheltered, but we are not unaware of what goes on around us... I don't think speaking of it that way can be considered "jumping to conclusions". 
Blessings!                 ~ a new reader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good thoughts, and I agree with what you said Tim. I appreciate your humble reply. Its in interesting topic and I think you covered both sides well. I would like to stress, you CAN tell something by its fruits and in many things, a prom, for instance, there is a pattern of &#8220;dirty dancing&#8221; and &#8220;awful music&#8221;. We homeschoolers may be considered sheltered, but we are not unaware of what goes on around us&#8230; I don&#8217;t think speaking of it that way can be considered &#8220;jumping to conclusions&#8221;.<br />
Blessings!                 ~ a new reader</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.agenttimonline.com/2006/11/21/finally/comment-page-1/#comment-14187</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ClaireBear,
Thank you for asking such a good question. First of all, quote me right: awful music and &lt;i&gt;dirty&lt;/i&gt; dancing. Now, I should, as you said, kept my mouth shut because this is a logical fallacy because not &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; is dancing in an innapropriate way, and the music isn't always bad (I'm not talking about taste). But to clarify, I'm talking about it in general -- and I'm talking about the non-Christians attending. 

Secondly, your point about talking about things where we have no experience is a good point, but like my statement, it's not always true. Just because I've never gone to a bar or club doesn't mean I can't say that it's a bad place to be. It's the same way with drugs -- just because I haven't tested them or tried them doesn't mean I can't say that they have horrific results. Etc., Etc.

But, again, I should have just kept my mouth shut and my opinion on the subject to myself. It's one of those Christian liberty areas -- even if it's close to the edge in many cases. But I hope everyone sensed the sarcasm and satiric nature of the original post. 

Anyway, this post is moving away from the top soon. Thanks for all these comments -- it's been a good discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ClaireBear,<br />
Thank you for asking such a good question. First of all, quote me right: awful music and <i>dirty</i> dancing. Now, I should, as you said, kept my mouth shut because this is a logical fallacy because not <i>everyone</i> is dancing in an innapropriate way, and the music isn&#8217;t always bad (I&#8217;m not talking about taste). But to clarify, I&#8217;m talking about it in general &#8212; and I&#8217;m talking about the non-Christians attending. </p>
<p>Secondly, your point about talking about things where we have no experience is a good point, but like my statement, it&#8217;s not always true. Just because I&#8217;ve never gone to a bar or club doesn&#8217;t mean I can&#8217;t say that it&#8217;s a bad place to be. It&#8217;s the same way with drugs &#8212; just because I haven&#8217;t tested them or tried them doesn&#8217;t mean I can&#8217;t say that they have horrific results. Etc., Etc.</p>
<p>But, again, I should have just kept my mouth shut and my opinion on the subject to myself. It&#8217;s one of those Christian liberty areas &#8212; even if it&#8217;s close to the edge in many cases. But I hope everyone sensed the sarcasm and satiric nature of the original post. </p>
<p>Anyway, this post is moving away from the top soon. Thanks for all these comments &#8212; it&#8217;s been a good discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: ClaireBear</title>
		<link>http://www.agenttimonline.com/2006/11/21/finally/comment-page-1/#comment-14181</link>
		<dc:creator>ClaireBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I was just wondering what made you think proms are "full of awful music and wild dancing?" Have you ever been to one or are you just making assumptions and perpetuating stereotypes? I hope this doesn't come across as too harsh, but too often the problem with "homeschooling blogs" such as this one is that the writers tend to jump to conclusions about people they have never talked to and events they have never attended. I'm sorry, but that's just uninformed bias. I think we as Christians do ourselves and others a favor when we're slow to speak, especially about things in which we have no experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I was just wondering what made you think proms are &#8220;full of awful music and wild dancing?&#8221; Have you ever been to one or are you just making assumptions and perpetuating stereotypes? I hope this doesn&#8217;t come across as too harsh, but too often the problem with &#8220;homeschooling blogs&#8221; such as this one is that the writers tend to jump to conclusions about people they have never talked to and events they have never attended. I&#8217;m sorry, but that&#8217;s just uninformed bias. I think we as Christians do ourselves and others a favor when we&#8217;re slow to speak, especially about things in which we have no experience.</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://www.agenttimonline.com/2006/11/21/finally/comment-page-1/#comment-13608</link>
		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole story is strange to me. The one who wrote this article tried to tell us that this school rejects homeschoolers, and that it refused Steven's attendance only because he was homeschooled. This is the impression I got after reading it.
First, it says that the school discourages outsiders, then it says it's for safety reasons. Then we understand that there's not strict rule, it's just that the school tries to discourage outsiders from participating...

I read the article twice, but it seems that there are a lot of missing information. Suddenly the principal calls (we don't know how she knew that Steven would attend). Before that Steven is threatened, and that he would be arrested...

Either the school is going through a lot of internal problems/issues due to some circumstances/experiences, or that the story lacks information, since it reveals only bits and pieces of the real story.

As for going to the prom, I don't think it's wrong. It's how you're going to the prom, how much you're spending for it, and what you're doing at the prom other than dancing.
Since I'm not in the US, I don't know if Steven spending 140$ is ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole story is strange to me. The one who wrote this article tried to tell us that this school rejects homeschoolers, and that it refused Steven&#8217;s attendance only because he was homeschooled. This is the impression I got after reading it.<br />
First, it says that the school discourages outsiders, then it says it&#8217;s for safety reasons. Then we understand that there&#8217;s not strict rule, it&#8217;s just that the school tries to discourage outsiders from participating&#8230;</p>
<p>I read the article twice, but it seems that there are a lot of missing information. Suddenly the principal calls (we don&#8217;t know how she knew that Steven would attend). Before that Steven is threatened, and that he would be arrested&#8230;</p>
<p>Either the school is going through a lot of internal problems/issues due to some circumstances/experiences, or that the story lacks information, since it reveals only bits and pieces of the real story.</p>
<p>As for going to the prom, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wrong. It&#8217;s how you&#8217;re going to the prom, how much you&#8217;re spending for it, and what you&#8217;re doing at the prom other than dancing.<br />
Since I&#8217;m not in the US, I don&#8217;t know if Steven spending 140$ is ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill W.</title>
		<link>http://www.agenttimonline.com/2006/11/21/finally/comment-page-1/#comment-13459</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, as a resident of the Tampa/St. Pete area, I could vouch for the accuracy of the St. Pete Times, but I won't. They are the second worst newspaper I have ever read. Only the Times of New York beats 'em in that "respect", if you will.

With that being said, allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment.

Anyway, Citrus County is rural. But it's also close to where 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford was kidnapped and murdered next-door to her own home. The concerns of the school are legitimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, as a resident of the Tampa/St. Pete area, I could vouch for the accuracy of the St. Pete Times, but I won&#8217;t. They are the second worst newspaper I have ever read. Only the Times of New York beats &#8216;em in that &#8220;respect&#8221;, if you will.</p>
<p>With that being said, allow me to play devil&#8217;s advocate for a moment.</p>
<p>Anyway, Citrus County is rural. But it&#8217;s also close to where 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford was kidnapped and murdered next-door to her own home. The concerns of the school are legitimate.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ridiculous!

Then again, like Tim said, public school dances aren't really that great anyways - I've been to a few. I can understand if it were &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; for people attending the school, but since they were letting other kids into the dance who didn't go to the school either, he should have been able to attend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridiculous!</p>
<p>Then again, like Tim said, public school dances aren&#8217;t really that great anyways - I&#8217;ve been to a few. I can understand if it were <i>only</i> for people attending the school, but since they were letting other kids into the dance who didn&#8217;t go to the school either, he should have been able to attend.</p>
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		<title>By: Palm Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palm Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so your saying it was good, because these two youngsters wouldn't be at the prom. 
Yeah...

I think the two should have figured out who could come and who couldn't, before he spent so much money on it. But ya know, which is the better of the two options here. Now that they're kicked out of the prom, they still want the night out together, but they won't be a crowd of people. Pick your poisen... :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so your saying it was good, because these two youngsters wouldn&#8217;t be at the prom.<br />
Yeah&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the two should have figured out who could come and who couldn&#8217;t, before he spent so much money on it. But ya know, which is the better of the two options here. Now that they&#8217;re kicked out of the prom, they still want the night out together, but they won&#8217;t be a crowd of people. Pick your poisen&#8230; <img src='http://www.agenttimonline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jacqui</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacqui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought so...:-)
They were so silly (as my Dad, the bureaucrat, would say). It's almost as bad as arguing the height restrictions on mulch for two hours...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought so&#8230;:-)<br />
They were so silly (as my Dad, the bureaucrat, would say). It&#8217;s almost as bad as arguing the height restrictions on mulch for two hours&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.agenttimonline.com/2006/11/21/finally/comment-page-1/#comment-13333</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The school's decision was "wise" because they didn't allow the kid to attend prom. But that's a joke.

In reality, it was a very bad, wrong decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school&#8217;s decision was &#8220;wise&#8221; because they didn&#8217;t allow the kid to attend prom. But that&#8217;s a joke.</p>
<p>In reality, it was a very bad, wrong decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
		<link>http://www.agenttimonline.com/2006/11/21/finally/comment-page-1/#comment-13331</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, the question still remains: Why do you view this as a "very wise" decision by the school? It may be ironic, or humorous as you said, but what about the school's decision was wise?

Thanks, maybe I am just missing it.

~Sparky
Mark 16:15</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the question still remains: Why do you view this as a &#8220;very wise&#8221; decision by the school? It may be ironic, or humorous as you said, but what about the school&#8217;s decision was wise?</p>
<p>Thanks, maybe I am just missing it.</p>
<p>~Sparky<br />
Mark 16:15</p>
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